Sunday, December 7, 2008

little drummer boy

I have seen war. I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives. I hate war.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945)

When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?
Eleanor Roosevelt (1884-1962)

today is the anniversary of the bombing of pearl harbor by the japanese, which brought the u.s. into ww II. this got me wondering about u.s. involvement in war over the course of our history and how the current wars in afghanistan and iraq compare in length to other wars. since there are other curious cats that read the mouse, here's what I learned:
  • Vietnam War: eight years, five months (August 1964 to January 1973)
  • Afghanistan: seven years, two months (October 2001 to present)
  • Revolutionary War: six years, nine months (July 1776 to April 1783)
  • Iraq: five years, nine months (March 2003 to present)
  • Civil War: four years (April 1861 to April 1865)
  • World War II: three years, eight months in the Pacific (December 1941 to August 1945)
  • War of 1812: two years, six months (June 1812 to December 1814)
  • U.S.-Mexico War: one year, 10 months (April 1846 to February 1848
  • Korea: 3 years, 1 month (June 1950-July 1953)
  • World War I: one year, seven months (April 1917 to November 1918).
  • Spanish-American War: eight months (April to December in 1898)
  • Persian Gulf War: one and 1/2 months (January to February in 1991).
depressing. isn't it. doubly depressing considering that the invasion of iraq was based on a parcel of lies. well, let's not go there again.

in preparing today's post, I may have stumbled on the reason we are in this quagmire. here's what the current president says about war:

I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war.
George W. Bush (b. 1946)

he certainly no fdr, but that's not fair fdr was a democrat, however w is no ike either:
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969)

david bowie and bing crosby chatting and singing a classic christmas carol.

drums of peace yes! drums of war no!
pa rum pum pum pum

photo: cleveland height home, 6 december 2008


R.L. Bourges said...

three things:

some fact sheet, isn't it?

He said WHAT? (that may explain how his twins turned out, btw)

The first person who gets to The Little Drummer Boy in the season, while it's still fresh, is like the person photographing the first snow of the year - much appreciated. You're it! Much appreciated.

(On the other hand, the last person posting either one had better have a good excuse at the ready!) :-)

randeep said...

Hopefully I won't insult you by asking... have you heard the song "Military Madness" by Graham Nash? If not, give it a listen!

Mouse said...

Did Bush REALLY say that? I'm shocked, what a very stupid man to hold such an important position! The world will be a better place when he returns to his asylum!

mouse (aka kimy) said...

rlb - ;)

randeep - it is a great song. no insult - and I'm sure I won't surprise you by saying of course I know it!! it was a 'standard' of the days of protesting against the vietnam war...and it's deju vu all over again!! you can count on my having that as a title of a post one day...I'm sure youtube has a vid of the boys csny singing it...

sister mouse - nice to see your name pop up, been a while! I got the quote from a reliable source. I have a fantasy that w and darth will be indicted for war crimes once they leave office. unfortunately my friends laugh at me and say 'oh yeah that will happen' or something of the like.

LadrĂ³n de Basura (a.k.a. Junk Thief) said...

Of course the dates on those wars are for the U.S. involvement not the entire war. It's amazing how long some wars have gone on, especially civil wars such as Guatemala which was 30 years by some accounts.

On the lighter note, that Bowie-Crobsy pairing is one of my favorite weirdly wonderful close encounters and proof that opposites can come together on common ground.

Merle Sneed said...

War is a horrible thing, but what do we do in the face of tyranny?

Not all are unavoidable, but not all are necessary either.

Colette Amelia said...

lovely house, lovely song. Terrible statistics.

Coffee Messiah said...

I hate to say it, but I concur with your friends (it's a mighty fantasy at this point in time), it'll never happen, otherwise, it would have. A shame really! ; (

Make Love, Not War! ; )

Bryce Digdug said...

Mouse - thank you for the Bowie/Crosby song - I love their rendition. When I was in Austin recently it was Veterans Day. There were a lot of old soldiers there, many of them not in the best shape. I could only think that heroes lead to more wars. And "military families" only lead to more people voting for future wars. Many, of course, of the poorest Americans end of fighting in our wars now.

Bryce Digdug said...

You are right about the Brownies. I've corrected it. THanks. - Bryce

Megan said...

I'm with R.L. on The Little Drummer Boy! :)

Those are some very interesting quotes.

Barbara said...

It's starting to seem like peace on earth is just a pipe dream. Can it ever really happen?

Squirrel said...

there's so much hate between people -- esp in regard to religion-- intolerance is everywhere.

Salty Miss Jill said...

What a great quote from a great lady, Ms. Roosevelt.
And does'nt Bowie look so young and handsome? I love this video!